Episode Summary

Today on the podcast, Jared and Trevor are joined by our friends actor Juan Pablo Raba & EXT Racing Shox owner Gaspare Licata. You may know Juan Pablo from his role in Narcos or the Yellowstone spinoff Dutton Ranch that's coming soon, but what you may not know is that he is a diehard mountain biker who uses riding as a tool for his mental and physical health. Gaspare recently purchased EXT after a successful decade serving as CEO of Crankbrothers, and him and Juan Pablo became great friends through riding mountain bikes. We chat about everything from the impact that bikes have on our lives as well as the amazing mountain bike community across the world to our favorite trails, rides and everything in between. Tune in! 

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This episode is a profound, two-part exploration of the connection between mountain biking and mental health, featuring returning guest Gaspare (from EXT) and special guest Juan Pablo, a professional actor and avid rider.

📝 Cleaned Transcript Summary

Intro & The "Olive Oil Voice" Jared and Trevor welcome Gaspare and Juan Pablo. Juan Pablo immediately gets a laugh for his professional intro, which Trevor notes fits the "man with the olive oil voice" nickname given to previous guests with smooth accents.

Habits & Mental Health The episode kicks off with Zach’s Words of Wisdom (Zwow): "Your habits will hold you back more than your enemies ever will." * The "Minimal Phone": Juan Pablo shows off his "unsexy" minimal phone (a hybrid of an Android, a Kindle, and a Blackberry). He switched to it to set an example for his teenage son and to reclaim his time. He notes that "banking for 10 minutes shouldn't turn into an hour of scrolling."

  • Biking as Therapy: Juan Pablo shares a deeply personal story about his 2024 midlife crisis. He credits mountain biking with giving him the "oxygen" and "active meditation" needed to survive it. He calls it "Bike Therapy."

The "Fastest Actor" in the World Juan Pablo jokingly claims the title of the fastest downhill actor. He recounts shooting The 33 in Colombia and Chile, where he used the bike as a tool to lose 19kg (94kg down to 75kg) in three months. He had to beg producers not to take his bike away, arguing that without it, his mental health—and therefore his performance—would suffer.

Gaspare’s Transition from Road to Dirt Gaspare discusses his background in professional recruitment and basketball. He originally found road cycling "uncool" due to the aesthetics (Lycra and logos) but fell in love with mountain biking after moving to California. He values the camaraderie of MTB, comparing it to the "locker room spirit" he missed from basketball—a sense of community he finds lacking in the "unapproachable" world of professional road racing.

🔑 Key Points & Discussion Topics

  • The Great Equalizer: The guys discuss how mountain biking levels the playing field. On the trail, it doesn't matter if you are a famous actor, a teenager, or a 60-year-old on a trailer; everyone is suffering through the same climb and celebrating the same descent.

  • Analog vs. E-Bike (Round 2): Juan Pablo explains why he quit E-bikes. He missed the delayed gratification of the climb. He feels that the "rush contest" of E-biking robbed him of the mental space to think deeply and conquer a challenge.

  • Gravel as a Skill Tool: In a surprising twist, Juan Pablo argues that riding a gravel bike on mountain bike trails made him a better jumper. The lack of suspension forced him to perfect his positioning, speed, and "death grip" issues, which translated to clearing 25-foot jumps on his downhill bike.

  • The "Man Shed" Concept: Juan Pablo mentions the "Dude Shed" or "Men's Shed" movement—spaces where men bond through shared projects (fixing a flat, building things). They agree that the trail serves as a natural "shed" for building authentic friendships.

🌎 Global Riding Perspectives

The Colombian Scene Juan Pablo highlights that cycling is the national sport of Colombia—even bigger than soccer for those over 30 (because "soccer is an extreme sport" for older knees). He warns that while the trails are world-class and raw (like "water slides"), riders in certain areas have to carry tasers or mace due to security concerns.

British Columbia (BC) Humility Juan Pablo spent a year in North Vancouver. He recounts his "humbling" realization that riding the legal trails didn't mean he knew how to ride. After a day on the "dark side" with pro riders, he realized BC riders are on a different level because they live in a culture where mountain biking is the only sport that matters.

🏁 TL;DR

Episode 177 is a "wholesome" look at how bikes save lives. Professional actor Juan Pablo explains why he traded his E-bike for "delayed gratification" and a "minimal phone" to protect his mental health. Gaspare and the crew discuss why the camaraderie of the trail is the ultimate social equalizer, transcending wealth and status. Finally, the group shares harrowing tales of surviving 100-degree rides in Moab and getting humbled by the vertical slabs of North Vancouver.